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Subminiature Tubes (6111, 6021) on 9-Pin socket (6DJ8, ECC88, 6922 etc)

Tuesday, January 4th, 2011

Since I have solder the subminiture tube on the SE mu-stage preamp, it do not allow easy swapping of tubes and thus lack lots of fun.  Thus I have found some 9-pin extention sockets and find a way to put a submini tube onto it.   I solder the leads of submini tube onto a pin head with 1mm diameter size.  The pin head can be inserted into the 9-pin socket.  Thus now I can swap tubes easily again!


In picture, the tube is 6021 to replace the 6DJ8 tube on my SE mu-stage preamp.  I put the two triodes in parallel and thus there will be only 5 connections from submini tube onto socket.


Hybrid Balance Mu-Stage preamp with subminiature tube

Friday, December 31st, 2010

This is a new made preamp – Hybrid Balance Mu-Stage.  Dual triode medium gain subminiature tube like 6N16B-V, 6N18B-V, 6N28B-V, 6111, & 6021 etc… can be used.  The choice of submini tube is due to its low noise and good microphonic effect. 


  1. Hybrid (Mosfet + Tube) mu-stage design with full balance at input and output
  2. Supply voltages: +128V, +59V, -69V and two 6.3V DC – all regulated supply
  3. Tube biased at about 1.5mA at about 60V plate voltage
  4. Mosfet IRF710 as Source Follower biased at about 7.5mA
  5. Gain about mu of the tube, about 20 to 40 times
  6. Non feedback design and thus tube may need to match for gain.
  7. Tube can be replacable using IC sockets, the submini tube is first soldered on 8-pins leads and then inserted into IC socket.

FFT measurment:

FFT Balance Mu Preamp

Update new photo on Jan 3rd, 2011 …..

Mu-Stage with subminiature tubes – 6111, 6021 etc…

Monday, December 20th, 2010

For 9 pin tubes, I think Amperex 6DJ8 is very good performer in mu-stage pre-amp.  Thus many other triodes are evaluated in Tube post.  Now here is some photos of the mu-stage with subminiature tubes.  The way is to solder the small tube on the bottom of the tube socket and the two triodes in one tube is put in parallel.  Insulation shrink tubes is used to prevent short circuit of leads.


I have purchased one pair Sylvania 6021 and 4 pcs Raytheon 6111 tubes (non marking type).  The pair of 6021 give very good matching for the gain but only 2 out of 6111 tube are with good gain match.  The worst 6111 tube is about 1 db lower gain than the other 3 pcs. 


Note that the mu-stage is also upgraded with KBG and Telfon capacitors!

Tubes – 12BY7, 12GN7, 12HL7, 12AV7, 6BQ7A, 5670W, 6DJ8, ECC88, E88CC, 6N23P, 6021, 6111 …

Monday, December 20th, 2010

Last update: 9th Jan, 2011

Tube evaluation summary in mu stage


Last update: Dec 20, 2010:

Check the link for the evaluation of different tubes in the Mu-stage pre-amp.  Some are good and some are not that good due to microphonic problem.


Last update: Dec 3rd, 2010:

For the pass month in Nov 2010, I acquired lots of tubes from ebay and namely 12BY7, 12GN7, 12HL7, 12AV7, 6BQ7A, 5670W, 6205, 6021, 6111, 6SN7GTB & 5U4GTB.  Mostly NOS but some are used tubes.  The experience on used tube is not that good and thus I only acquire NOS in the later part.  I think the tube can be used for mu-stage or pre-amp used.  The mini tubes is also good for phono stage or micphone pre-amp which will have smaller microphonic problem.

6DJ8 / 6N23P tubes experience from ebay !!!

Monday, November 8th, 2010

Recently I bided a pair of 6DJ8 – Amperex from Germany (USD $5, see photo) ebay item number 290488910892.  This is a used tube and expect the performance is not as good as NOS.  So it ends up to be one tube with much higher noise level as shown in first 3 photos. Even the noise level is higher for one tube but I really cannot hear the difference between them.  Amperex tube sound good!!!  Thus our ears are really not able to tell much about tube variations!?


Another experience is a lot 10 pcs of Russian 6N23P (USD $10), ebay item number 260680492416.  All of them has much higher microphonic noise than US brand tubes and 7 of them with extreme high frequency buzzing noise when knock on the tube body.  The buzzing will extended few to 10 seconds!  See last photo.  The seller has refunded me partly due to this problem and I am happy with his compensation!!!


I use all the tubes in my Mu-Stage pre-amp!